Generator, Degenerator and Regenerator

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Lecture given by Dr. Kinley in 1967 in Springfield, Ohio.

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TRANSCRIBED BY STEVE LAPORTE FIRST PROOFREADING: MICHAEL ROTHSTEIN SECOND PROOFREADING: GERRY ROTHSTEIN THIRD PROOFREADING: INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE APPROVED BY THE INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE: 1997

TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:

1. ... INDICATES THAT DR. KINLEY ENDED A WORD OR A SENTENCE WITHOUT VERBALLY COMPLETING IT. 2. AUDIENCE COMMENTS ARE INCLUDED ONLY IF MORE THAN ONE PERSON RESPONDED OR IF DR. KINLEY WAS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO A SPECIFIC PERSON. 3. UNLESS EMPHASIZED BY DR. KINLEY PAUSE WORDS HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE TRANSCRIPT FOR THE SAKE OF EASE IN READABILITY AND COMPREHENSION (AH, SEE, YOU SEE, YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN, YOU FOLLOW, IS THAT RIGHT.) 4. INDICATES AN INAUDIBLE WORD OR SYLLABLE 5. WORDS IN CAPITAL LETTERS ARE COMMENTS OF THE TRANSCRIBER

(PREVIOUS SPEAKER: SOMEONE IN SPRINGFIELD, OHIO)


DR. KINLEY: ... run these things down through just like it was. And if you understood why, he (PREVIOUS SPEAKER) gave Yahweh all the glory and the honor.

STUDENT BODY: That's right.

DR. KINLEY: Now there's a few things that I'd like to mention to you. I think it's necessary, now we have wrote a book and we have sent it all over the world. And I'm sure that people everywhere in the world are confused even at the correct name of the heavenly Father. But now the book that we wrote has just as much so ____ ____ so about the body. What we wanna do is try to bring to you a few things that might open up your understanding, to such an extent that you will be benefited. Now I hope everybody can hear me in the back. Can you hear me in the back, back there?

STUDENT BODY: We can hear alright.

DR. KINLEY: Now if you notice, we're always saying Yahshua the Messiah started with Moses. ____ ____ ____. A lot of people don't know the reason for Him starting with Moses. Well now we wanna talk about just that.

STUDENT BODY: Alright.

DR. KINLEY: We're gonna tell you why He started with Moses. Now not withstanding, now that He was back there with Moses and He said that Moses wrote of Him. Is, is that correct?

STUDENT BODY: Yeah.

DR. KINLEY: Now if you notice He didn't say that any of the rest of 'em back there at that time wrote of Him.

STUDENT BODY: Right, that's right.

DR. KINLEY: Now Enoch was a prophet, seventh from Adam. And he prophesied too, ____ Israel. And he spoke about the coming of 10,000 of His sons. Enoch, the seventh from Adam. That was in the Ante-Diluvian Age. Noah, he preached 120 years, but He didn't start with Enoch or Noah. And Adam was formed ____ ____ ____. Adam, if you look at the third chapter of Luke and the last verse, you find that Adam was a son of Yahweh too, but He didn't start with them. Now the reason why He didn't start with them was because they didn't write anything. Now they saw a vision. Moses did, Enoch saw a vision, Noah saw a vision, but they didn't write anything. So if they don't write nothing, why it's because that the Holy Spirit didn't reveal anything to them, them who, that is they could write about it; in other words they didn't have any permission to write. And not only that, now you can go down here on the market and you can find the book of Abraham. Now Abraham never wrote nothing. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now this all comes out of a misunderstanding. People are trying to say something great. They wanna make a name for themselves. They wanna be important. So they'll go to any lengths to write about something to try to make somebody think... And then again too, I wanna mention this to you: you don't see my picture on nothing I ever wrote.

STUDENT BODY: Right, that's right.

DR. KINLEY: No, you won't find my picture in nothing. They're forbidden to even put it in the book because I don't want nobody to think that I think I'm that all that important. And I know I'm not that beautiful. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now...

(BREAK IN TAPE, BUT HE CONTINUES ALONG THE SAME LINE)

DR. KINLEY: ... when you, you have a whole lotta controversy about it, a whole lotta books written on it, a whole lotta said about it, in school and what not, but I'm here to tell you that this school is not my doing at all, it's Yahweh's. And just to tell you the honest truth about it, He founded, Yahweh founded this school.

STUDENT BODY: Right.

DR. KINLEY: He might have done it through me and you and the other fellow but He's the actual founder of it. Now the gospel of the Kingdom must be preached in this Age. Now He didn't.., He started with Moses. Now this is the Creator. Then there's something else I wanna tell you about that too. Look at the 3rd Chapter of, of Philippians, I believe it is and the fifth verse.

READER: Circumcised the eighth day DR. KINLEY: No, the third chapter of Titus I believe it is. READER: Yeah. Not by works of righteousness DR. KINLEY: That, that's correct. READER: Which we have done DR. KINLEY: Now it's not by works of righteousness which we have done READER: But according to His mercy DR. KINLEY: But according to His mercy READER: He saved us DR. KINLEY: He saved us READER: By the washing of regeneration DR. KINLEY: By the washing of regeneration READER: And the renewing of the Holy Spirit DR. KINLEY: And the renewing of the Holy Spirit READER: Which He shed on us abundantly DR. KINLEY: Which He shed on us abundantly READER: Through Yahshua

DR. KINLEY: Through Yahshua the Messiah who was the Son of Yahweh. Now here's what I'm trying to say and here's the reason why we say it. He, now he is is telling you about regeneration. Now there had to be a generation. Now this is a generation or the creation of the heavens and the earth, the physical. That's the generation of it. Now then there's a degeneration: now that means a coming down. Then there's a regeneration: that means taking it back, created a new in Yahshua the Messiah. Now the reason why I brought that up is on this account: Adam was the Son of Yahweh and Yahweh was manifested in him, in that first man Adam. And he partaken of the fruit of that tree for his wife's sake. Now why did I say that? Look at Romans 5:14 and then you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm gonna get on down to business here, but I want you to understand a few things.

READER: Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam to Moses DR. KINLEY: Now, nevertheless... Now we got the first man on earth. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses READER: Even over them that had not sinned DR. KINLEY: Even over them that had not sinned READER: After the similitude of Adam's transgression

DR. KINLEY: After the similitude of Adam's transgression. Now just a minute. Now over here in Paul's writings to Timothy, he says that Adam was not in the transgression, but the woman being deceived was in it. Now the use of words and the employment of words by the translators. Often times you'd run into something like that and then you'd get confused. Unless you understand ____ the flesh and know something about the purpose. But now often times that one statement in a.., one statement in Hebrew will mean one thing in one place and in another place it will mean another. So you have to have understanding in order to be able to interpret correctly. Give you an example: Solomon said one generation goes and another comes but the earth abideth forever. Now Jehovah's Witnesses are running around saying that the earth is gonna abide this way forever. Now when you look over here in the 24th chapter of Matthew, you'll find that Yahshua the Messiah said heaven and earth shall pass away but my word shall not pass away. John on the Isle of Patmos said he saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and first earth was passed away. Well now what are you supposed to do when you run into something like that and you don't understand what it's all about. You just skip on over it.

(STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)

And then, then nobody discovers your ignorance.

(STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)

See that now? Well, we don't do that. We understand what it is all about. Now Genesis 8:22 says this, while the earth remains, seed time and harvest, day and night, summer and winter shall not pass. It'll be just a constant movement, that earth, just like the sun rising and the sun setting, as long as the earth remains, but now there's gonna come a time when it won't remain. (STUDENT BODY LAUGHS) Now how about that too? Then Yahweh said He would make all things new. What the Jehovah Witness' or any body else says he's just up there lying. Now the here's why I'm bringing this up. I'm trying to.., I thought tonight that I would try to show you something about your Bible, how it was written, so that you could get some understanding about it. Now you notice now, what we had here to begin, beginning with Moses that's in Luke you'll find that, beginning at Moses... Suppose you read that.

READER: Luke 24:25 DR. KINLEY: Luke 24:25. Now hurry up now, because time is flying and I've got a lot of ground to cover. READER: Then He said unto them, oh fools and slow DR. KINLEY: Then He said unto them, oh fools and slow of heart READER: To believe all that the prophets had told you

DR. KINLEY: Believe all... Now it just didn't say Moses, believe all that the prophets. Enoch was a prophet, I showed you that. Noah too preached. And Abraham and on down, they preached. Alright.

READER: Ought not the Messiah to have suffered these things DR. KINLEY: Now, ought not the Messiah to have suffered these things READER: And to enter into His glory DR. KINLEY: And to enter into His glory READER: And beginning at Moses

DR. KINLEY: Now at.., and beginning at Moses. Now that's where He started at. Now remember this is the Creator. Now don't go in there and stumble around on that and make no mess out of it. That's what you got. You got the Creator of the heavens and the earth. And beginning at Moses.

READER: And all the prophets DR. KINLEY: And all of the prophets READER: He expounded unto them DR. KINLEY: He expounded unto them READER: In all the scriptures DR. KINLEY: In all the scriptures READER: The things concerning Himself

DR. KINLEY: The things concerning Himself. Now I want you to go to Exodus, the 24th chapter and the 16th verse. But before you go there, to the 16th verse, read the first two or three verses of the 24th chapter of Exodus.

READER: And He said unto Moses DR. KINLEY: And He said unto Moses READER: Come up unto Yahweh DR. KINLEY: Come up unto Yahweh READER: Thou and Aaron DR. KINLEY: Thou and Aaron READER: Nadab and Abihu DR. KINLEY: Nadab and Abihu READER: And seventy of the elders of Israel DR. KINLEY: And seventy of the elders of Israel READER: And worship ye afar off DR. KINLEY: And worship ye afar off READER: And Moses alone DR. KINLEY: And Moses alone READER: Shall come near Yahweh DR. KINLEY: Shall come near Yahweh READER: But they shall not come nigh DR. KINLEY: But they shall not come nigh READER: Neither shall the people go up with him DR. KINLEY: Neither shall the people go up with him. Now please read down. READER: And the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai DR. KINLEY: And the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai READER: And the cloud covered it six days DR. KINLEY: And the cloud covered it six days READER: Colon DR. KINLEY: Colon READER: And the seventh day DR. KINLEY: And the seventh day READER: He called unto Moses out of the midst

DR. KINLEY: Now you don't see a thing there about that. You don't see a thing about what happened. And that colon indicates that there's something left out. Now then this is, this is what you have to do. I want you to repeat what you just said.

READER: And the glory of Yahweh abode upon Mount Sinai and the cloud covered it six days DR. KINLEY: And the cloud covered it six days READER: Colon DR. KINLEY: Colon READER: And the seventh day DR. KINLEY: And the seventh day READER: He called unto Moses DR. KINLEY: He called unto Moses READER: Out of the midst of the cloud

DR. KINLEY: Out of the midst of the cloud. Now I want you to go over to Genesis 1:1. Now this is what is left out. And this ____ right what you're getting to read now. ____ this over in Exodus. And Moses

(BREAK IN TAPE)

DR. KINLEY: and put it over here in the, in the beginning. Now listen folks be careful now. This is why Yahshua started with Moses. Now you don't find a thing about where Enoch wrote anything or Adam wrote anything about the creation of heaven and earth. Abraham never wrote a thing about it, the creation of heaven and earth. You follow now? Well why didn't he write something about it, because he didn't see nothing about it. Well why didn't he see nothing about it, cause He didn't reveal anything about it. Alright I have, I'll have another writing I wanna mention to you, before you go any further with that. We gonna come right back to it. I believe it's the 10th chapter of Joshua and about the 13th verse. Now here's another ____, ____.

READER: 12th verse. Then spake Joshua to Yahweh in the day when Yahweh delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel

DR. KINLEY: Um hum. READER: And he said in the sight of Israel DR. KINLEY: Um, hum. READER: Sun stand thou still upon Gibeon DR. KINLEY: Um, hum. READER: and thou moon in the valley of Ajalon DR. KINLEY: Um, hum. READER: And the sun stood still DR. KINLEY: Um hum, and the sun stood still READER: And the moon stayed DR. KINLEY: And the moon stayed READER: Until the people had avenged themselves DR. KINLEY: Vengeance. The people had avenged themselves READER: Is not this written in the Book of Jasher

DR. KINLEY: Is not this written in the Book of, the Book of Jasher? Now you can go down to the book.., into the store and fool around on that one. But now this Book of Jasher, Moses.., Moses didn't write that one, and didn't none of the prophets write that one. The Boss wrote that one Himself. Now look and listen. Now you're talking about the sun and the moon standing still. Now the sun, if Joshua had not been the Son.., and this is the first time that the sun and the moon hearkened to the voice of a man. Now it had to be the same Man that created 'em? It had to have been the Creator standing there in... It would not have hearkened unto Him.

STUDENT BODY: That's right.

DR. KINLEY: You see that one. And is not this written in the Book of Jasher? Now you've heard this said, there's no such thing as a J in no language at all until about the 17th century. Wasn't in the Hebrew language and it wasn't in no language, so it could not have been called the Book, the Book of Jasher. How about that? Had you thought about that? Now that J, that's a Y. Now let me show you this. Now you have a tribe, one of the tribes here A S H E R. Y A H S H E R. Y A H, not a J. The Book of Yasher. Always look in the margin of the translators, those of you that have a King James version of the Bible, and see what that really does mean there. That means the Book of the Upright. Now that Book of the Upright, Yahweh written that Book. Now I see, I see, I've got to make a.., right there and I'm able to confuse you in what you think. But, as far as we go with it and we'll take it up some other time. I'm, I'm sure I'll finish it. Now Yahweh written that Book. Now let's go to the 32nd chapter of Exodus and the 31st and 32nd verse. Now what we're after is, were after the Book of Jasher.

READER: 31st verse.

DR. KINLEY: Or the Book of the Upright. Now here's something else I want you to understand. I want you to know this. We got a song out, "Is my name written there?" Yes, your name is written there, aliases and all. Yahweh knows every last one of you I mean just like you, just like ____ ____ ____ know. I don't know whether anybody ever told you that before or not. You notice that He spake to Moses at the burning bush, He called him Moses, Moses. And He told Moses that He was the Elohim of his father, Amram. And then He told him of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Is that right?

STUDENT BODY: Yeah.

DR. KINLEY: Now here's something that we leave out for the most part and the fact of the matter is we over look it. He also told.., since we spoke of Him talking to Moses at the burning bush and Moses went through giving those excuses for not going down, down here in Egypt. He told... Now look, now here's what we're talking about, we're talking about Yahweh knowing your name and Him writing it in the Book, not the one Moses wrote, but the Book of the Upright. And your name is there, your record and everything is there. Now that's what we're talking about. And we're talking about and trying to show you that Yahweh knows your name. Now we showed you He spoke to Moses and called him by name. And He told him that He was the Elohim of his father, that's Amram. And then He said of Isaac, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Is that right?

STUDENT BODY: Right. DR. KINLEY: Meaning that He knew Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. STUDENT BODY: Right. DR. KINLEY: And Moses had to complain about having an impediment of speech. He found out that He knew Aaron also. STUDENT BODY: Right.

(LAUGHS)

DR. KINLEY: Cause He told him that He was gonna give him a... Now here you find out He knows his brother Aaron. He almost knows everybody.

(STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)

Now these are some things you need to know. Now the 32nd chapter, see what He told Moses there.

READER: And Moses returned unto Yahweh and said DR. KINLEY: And Moses returned to Yahweh and said READER: Oh this people have sinned a great sin and have

DR. KINLEY: Now that's when they builded the golden calf. And Moses come down out of the mountain with the tables of stone and which he threw down there, he found they had builded a golden calf. Right there. And he threw down those tables of stone. And he said to them, Yahweh had spoke to them and give them the commandments and told them that they shouldn't make anything in the likeness of anything in the heavens or in the earth or under the earth. Now they had heard Him say that. And they said, 'all that you say, we will do. We just don't want you to speak to us no more like that.' So they wanted Moses to speak to Him. They were frightened, even Moses was frightened. I don't want you to think that he wasn't, he was. Alright now, Moses tells them what?

READER: And have made them DR. KINLEY: I said repeat what you just, get the continuity of thought there. READER: And Moses returned unto Yahweh and said DR. KINLEY: And Moses returned unto Yahweh and said READER: Oh this people hath sinned a great sin

DR. KINLEY: Now he said the people had sinned a great sin in that they had took their earrings and other jewelry and builded that golden calf. Alright, and they were worshiping (worshipping?) and rejoicing over the thing., Alright now read on. Now Moses said now, you sinned or you have sinned a great sin

READER: And have made them idols of gold DR. KINLEY: And have made them idols of gold READER: Yet now DR. KINLEY: Yet now READER: If thou wilt forgive their sins DR. KINLEY: Now if thou wilt forgive their sins READER: And if not DR. KINLEY: And if you won't forgive their sins READER: Blot me I pray thee DR. KINLEY: Blot me I pray thee READER: Out of thy Book DR. KINLEY: Out of thy Book READER: Which thou hast written

DR. KINLEY: Out of the Book of the Yasher, which He had written. Now Moses, when he was up in the mountain, he saw that Book, that was the Word. He saw that Book and that's where everything comes from, out of that Book, not that Moses wrote, but that Yahweh had written. Did you get that?

STUDENT BODY: Yeah, yeah.

DR. KINLEY: You follow that? Now Moses had seen his name in the Book. That's what I'm trying to tell you. When he was up in the mountain he saw his name in the Book which Yahweh had written and he hadn't wrote a thing yet about it. He wrote about the tables of stone when he went up into the mount but he hadn't wrote anything about the creation. You follow now?

STUDENT BODY: Yeah. DR. KINLEY: Now these things are deep, they are things you need to know. You need to realize this. And this is the great power and the infinity and the divine intelligence, the wisdom, the understanding of Yahweh.

STUDENT BODY: Right.

DR. KINLEY: That He knows this. Now he said then if you won't forgive their sins for building this golden calf and you have told 'em not to make anything in the likeness of anything that was in the heavens above and the earth beneath, Moses said, then blot me out of your Book, the Book of Yasher, which Yahweh had written. It wasn't gonna be no misunderstanding and no interpolations and none of that and no corrections and no modifications and revisions in that One, that Book which He had written. It had Moses' name, everybody's name in it. Now in order to show you that, which I don't have time to do, then you would have to go back. Moses seen his name and then Moses wrote the pedigrees and genealogies from Adam on down to himself, and they was encouched in that book. Now since you read that, finish reading what you have read there. Blot me out of thy book which thou hast written.

READER: And Yahweh said unto Moses DR. KINLEY: And now Yahweh said unto Moses

(BREAK IN TAPE)

DR. KINLEY: Now listen here, listen folks. Trying to put something over on someone else and blame somebody else for your troubles.

STUDENT BODY: Right.

DR. KINLEY: Now Yahweh don't ____ that. And then He's not holding someone else responsible, He's holding you responsible, from the age of accountability. Then we'll give you something on that. When Yahshua was 12 years old He went up there to the Temple and confounded the doctors and the lawyers. So around 12 years old you are accountable. Now listen, repeat what you just read.

READER: And Yahweh said unto Moses DR. KINLEY: And Yahweh said unto Moses READER: Whosoever hath sinned against me

DR. KINLEY: Now it don't make no difference whether it's mama, papa, the children, or who... Whosoever sinned against me

READER: Him will I blot out of my book

DR. KINLEY: Him. That's the one that's gonna be blotted out. Him will I blot out of the Book.., which you have in your church registry?

STUDENT BODY: No, no, no.

(LAUGHS)

DR. KINLEY: You follow now? See that now? Which you have enrolled or matriculated in your books that you have written, on your honor rolls, your church roll?

(STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)

Him will I blot out of my Book, which I have written, which Yahweh said He had written and that's the Book of the Upright. Him will I blot out on My Book, which I have written, which Yahweh said He had written. And that's the Book of the Upright. Now He said He was gonna blot him out. Now the 20th chapter of Revelations and the 12th verse. And let's read it quick and fast. Let's see what happens.

READER: And I saw the dead DR. KINLEY: And I saw the dead READER: Small and great DR. KINLEY: Small and great READER: Stand before Yahweh DR. KINLEY: Stand before Yahweh READER: And the books were opened DR. KINLEY: And the book. Huh? READER: Books, and the books were opened. DR. KINLEY: Is that plural or singular? READER: Plural.

DR. KINLEY: Plural, I just want you to see that the whole thing, all of it, that Moses wrote and everything right there plain. I'm talking about Moses now. The books was opened. The law and the prophets, the books was opened and then what?

READER: And another book

DR. KINLEY: Oh, now wait just a minute, that, that other book which Moses didn't write. ____ ____ You follow now? And another book. Alright read on.

READER: Which is the book of life

DR. KINLEY: Now that is the Book of Life. That is the Book of Life.____ ____ ____ ____ ____. Another book that Moses wrote. Now listen here, didn't no preacher open it.

STUDENT BODY: That's right.

DR. KINLEY: Now is that clear to you? Do you understand what I said? Now I don't want nobody walking out of here tonight and say, 'well I didn't understand what he said. I ain't able to figure out what he said.' I said that no preacher never opened it. Yahweh said, behold I have set before you an open door. Now here's the preacher and Revelation Baptist Church on Saint John's Street in Cincinnati, preacher down there tried to preach against what we teach. Saint John's Church, Baptist Church, said, 'now open the doors of this church.' Hold up his hands and just fell dead right there in the pulpit. Ask Doctor Harris and them about that ____ ____. You see that? Alright read on.

READER: And another book was opened DR. KINLEY: And another book was opened. We just, just repeating, repeat what he read. READER: Which is the book of life DR. KINLEY: Which is the book of life READER: And the dead were judged DR. KINLEY: And the dead were judged READER: Out of those things which were written in the book DR. KINLEY: And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the book. READER: According to their works DR. KINLEY: According to their works. Alright read on. READER: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it DR. KINLEY: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it READER: And death and Sheol DR. KINLEY: And death and Hell or Sheol READER: Delivered up the dead which were in them DR. KINLEY: Delivered up the dead which were in them READER: And they were judged every man DR. KINLEY: And they were judged every man READER: According to their works DR. KINLEY: According to their works READER: And death and hell were cast into the lake DR. KINLEY: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire READER: This is the second death DR. KINLEY: That's the second death READER: And

DR. KINLEY: Now, now, not the second resurrection, but the second death. Ain't gonna be no second resurrection. He said, 'I am the resurrection,' not resurrections. Alright read on.

READER: And death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire this is the second death DR. KINLEY: This is the second death READER: And DR. KINLEY: And READER: Whosoever will not

DR. KINLEY: And. Hold it now, I want you to watch what I'm talking about and whosoever sinned against Me him will I blot out of My Book which I have written. And whomsoever

READER: Was not found DR. KINLEY: Not found READER: Written in the book of life DR. KINLEY: Not found in the book READER: written in the DR. KINLEY: written in the book READER: Was cast into the lake

DR. KINLEY: Was cast in the Lake. Yahweh done blotted him out. You, you still have him on your church rolls, but Yahweh done blotted him out.

STUDENT BODY: Alright.

DR. KINLEY: You running around talking about I'm a this and I'm a that and I'm a the other and Yahweh blotted him out of the Book, And sometimes you wonder why it is that so and so, so and so don't come out of, from of this junk and foolishness that there is. Yahweh done blotted him out. And now that Book which He had written, why then Yahweh just done blot him, blotted him out. But his name, everybody's name was in it. Everybody that's ever to appear in this world, Yahweh has some record of it, knows all about 'em, and whoever it is that sinned against Him, then He blots him out of the Book, which He has written. And whomsoever is not found in the book was cast into the Lake of Fire. Now let me go back. I just wanted to show you about this writing in these books. Now I just wanted to show you that Moses and the prophets wrote the books of the prophets and Yahweh wrote the Book of the Upright. And now we're down here to the point where we want to make it clear to you that in this 16th verse, he read that Moses goes up into the mount and the cloud covered the mountain six days. Now this is the first chapter of Genesis. Now you have a colon, you have a colon mark right there in the 16th chapter or the 16th verse of the 24th chapter, the 24th verse. Is that right?

STUDENT BODY: That's right.

DR. KINLEY: Now listen, this has got to be proven. It just can't go on this way. It has to be proven. Now then you have to have... this is Exodus 24:16 and here it's written here, same one as Revelation 10:4. Read that after you read whatever you got.

READER: When the seven thunders had uttered their voices

DR. KINLEY: Now the seven thunders had uttered their voices. Now Moses hears Him thunder His voice, 'let there be light,' and there was light. And the evening and the morning was the first day. And he hears Him on the second day, 'let the..,' thunder of His voice. The Seven Thunders, the seven days do appear, Seven Thunders. Now you get thunder out of a cloud.

STUDENT BODY: Right, alright. DR. KINLEY: I just want to point that out to you. You get thunder out of a cloud. Now I'm going back to Genesis. READER: In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and earth DR. KINLEY: Now wait just a minute, now you don't have no cloud, so you can't start in Genesis. STUDENT BODY: No. That's right.

DR. KINLEY: Don't have no cloud which is synonymous to your brain. You don't have no ears to hear with and you don't have no eyes to see with, and fact of the matter is you don't have no head.

STUDENT BODY: That's right. Yes, sir.

DR. KINLEY: Now you see why you can't start in Genesis? Cause you don't have no cloud. Now you have a cloud over here in Exodus and you have a cloud over there in Revelations. You follow it now? Now how about that? Now then here comes somebody, they wanna know all about it, gonna write all about it and they, they ain't got no, ain't got no head, ain't got no eyes to see with, no ears to hear with. You see what I'm talking about? Now look, John said he was on the Isle of Patmos on the seventh day. Now what I'm talking about is how your Book is put together.

STUDENT BODY: Right.

DR. KINLEY: He was there on the seventh day; or in other words he was there on the Sabbath. Now this is deep and it's hard but I do wanna take time and... And look, we only got ten minutes here and I wanna take time enough to put this together like.., so you pay strict attention. Now you're in Genesis. Now you got Exodus where the cloud covered the top of a mountain in the 16th verse, and you got a colon there and the cloud covered the mountain six days, colon. Then on the seventh day He called to Moses out of the midst of the cloud. Is that somewheres near right?

STUDENT BODY: Right, that's right.

DR. KINLEY: You say that's somewheres near right? Now look, he said the seventh day He called unto Moses. Now you go down and read right straight through, right straight through Genesis through the seventh day and it'll bring you right back to that same seventh day that you got here in Exodus. And he showed you how.., what happened on the seventh day why He sanctified it and He rested. That's that same seventh day that you got here in Exodus. Now you had the vision of Moses there. Now then after he come down to that vision and down to that seventh day in the Genesis, now pay attention, pay attention, he stopped right there. He don't write on and finish up the book of Genesis. Stopped right there. Then what is he gonna do? What's gonna happen next and how do you know? Now then this is what happens next. Now he was in the 24th chapter. Now go on over to the 25th chapter. Now we done stopped in Genesis now. Got the brakes on. Got to a stop sign. He can't write nothing about no pedigrees and genealogies, he never saw anything at that time. He's just talking about the generation of the heaven and the earth in that vision at that time. That's the second trip he was in the mount. And that's as far as you go with it, the creation of the heaven and earth and bringing down to the seventh day or the Sabbath and stopped right there.

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DR. KINLEY: Then you come back over here to Exodus. Then what are you gonna do with that?

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DR. KINLEY: Start reading the 25th chapter. READER: And Yahweh spake unto Moses saying DR. KINLEY: And Yahweh spake unto Moses READER: Speak unto the children of Israel DR. KINLEY: Speak unto the children of Israel READER: That they bring me an offering DR. KINLEY: That they bring me an offering READER: Of every man that giveth it willingly DR. KINLEY: Of every man that giveth it willingly READER: You shall take my offering DR. KINLEY: Um hum and this READER: And this is the offering that you shall take of them, gold and silver and brass

DR. KINLEY: Now, now He's telling him... Now listen folks let me make it real good and clear, Yahweh is building the greater and more perfect tabernacle and Moses is seeing it in a vision and it took him seven days to see it, while the sun is rising and setting, and this is in the realm of eternity and not in time. You see that now? Now since Yahweh created, listen now, since Yahweh created the greater and more perfect tabernacle and stopped and rested on the seventh day. Now when He tells Moses, 'now you speak to the children of Israel and tell them to bring me something, so you can make a tabernacle.' That's why He had to make the greater and more perfect tabernacle first. He wouldn't dare ask Moses to make a tabernacle without Him making one first.

STUDENT BODY: Alright. DR. KINLEY: Do you see that now? STUDENT BODY: Yes.

(STUDENT BODY LAUGHS)

DR. KINLEY: The greater and more perfect tabernacle. Now you speak to them and out of this stuff that they took from the Egyptians and brought up here, then you tell them to bring me an offering, cause you're gonna make a tabernacle out of the stuff you brought up, just like I made a tabernacle out of the stuff back here.

STUDENT BODY: Alright. DR. KINLEY: Now you understand what I'm talking about? STUDENT BODY: (CLAP) Yes, yes. Alright.

DR. KINLEY: So, now I have the first seven days of that vision, seeing the vision of the greater and more perfect tabernacle, then the next 33 days of the 40 days, Yahweh was showing him about the tabernacle that He told him to bring an offering to build. Now that's the seven days and the 33 more days, that's the total that length of time when he was in the mountain the second time. Then how about that?

STUDENT BODY: Alright, (LAUGH) That's alright.

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