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by Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley

DATE: February 9, 1975

TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES: Opening statement inaudible.

DR. KINLEY: That is one of the reasons why we had this 1^st John read. It's a couple of verses in there that we would like to call your attention to and we're always trying to do or best toward awakening you to something that will be beneficial to you and help you in your studies. Read on.

READER: "And we know that we are of Yahweh..."

DR. KINLEY: Now it says here, and this is the Apostle John speaking. He said, "Now we know..." We who? The Apostles. Now, they know. Now they didn't guess about it, they didn't surmise about it said, "We know, WE KNOW, that we are of Yahweh". All right.

READER: "...and the whole world lieth in wickedness..."

DR. KINLEY: Now that's the situation that's even today. This whole world lies in wickedness. Now it don't look like it, but it does.

READER: "...and we know..."

DR. KINLEY: Now he's talking about what he thinks he knows something about, he's not guessing about it either. He's not saying what he believes, he's talking about what he knows. All right, read on.

READER: "...and we know that the Son of Yahweh is come..."

DR. KINLEY: "And we know that the Son of Yahweh is come." Now if some of you have a Bible look at the top of the page, at the chronology, and see when that epistle was written.

STUDENTS: A.D. 90.

DR. KINLEY: A.D. 90. Now he said that he knew that the Son of Yahweh is come, not going to come, but is come. "And hath given us an understanding." Now we know that down here in this school too, don't we?

STUDENTS: Yes. Yes, sir. Yes, we do.

DR. KINLEY: Now we know that. It's always somebody trying to tell you something, but we already know this. All right, read on.

READER: "...and we know that the Son of Yahweh is come, and hath given us an understanding..."

DR. KINLEY: "...and hath given us an understanding..."

READER: "...that we may know Him that is true..."

DR. KINLEY: Now that you MIGHT believe...

STUDENTS: No!

DR. KINLEY: Now we're past that stage here. We had certain basic and fundamental things that we believed before we come to this school, but now we've gotten around to the place where we know, know it for a surety. And if you hang out around here long enough, you'll find out we know. All right, read on.

READER: "...and we are in Him that is true..."

DR. KINLEY: Now we already in Him. Oh, you know it's something for you to understand that. You already in Him that is true. Now you won't have to fly off nowhere to get in Him. We already in Him. Now you keep that thought in mind: "We are in Him that is true." All right, read.

READER: "...even in His Son, Yahshua the Messiah..."

DR. KINLEY: "...even in His Son, Jesus Christ..."

STUDENTS: No! No!

DR. KINLEY: No, Yahshua the Messiah. Now we know that. Read on.

READER: "This is the true Elohim..."

DR. KINLEY: Now believe it or not folks this is the true Elohim. Now that's the true one! Now that word "Elohim" you have there, is the "Word" or "Son" or "God". Now somebody would say this: "Well, what is the source or derivation of that? I never heard anything about that name." No, that's now a name. That's a title, and it embraces the plurality. And it is what we might call a conjunction, which unites the Father and the Son and manifest the Father and the Son. Now, what else there Doc?

READER: "...this is the true Elohim and eternal life."

DR. KINLEY: "Now this is the true Elohim and eternal life." Now look, you're reading in the first epistle of John. Now what we have done down here in this school, is to try to make you conscious of some things and make you become aware of some things. Now this is what the world calls reading out of the New Testament, which is not so. But nevertheless, you're in the New Testament, you're reading that this is the true Elohim and eternal life. Now I want you to open you Bible now, just to show you how stupid you were in the first place! Now just to show you how stupid you were before you come to school. Genesis 1:1.

READER: "In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth..."

DR. KINLEY: Now you see that? Then for somebody to come along and tell you that the Elohim that the Apostles knew and Him that created the heavens and earth was ne and the same, and was back there with Moses and them, now you got yourself a problem. A great big one too. Now what we try our best to do is make you aware of these things, things that you don't understand. Now I said it was a conjunction. It works kinda like the words "and", "but", "if", and "for". Now Yahweh is a name. Yahshua is a a name. Elohim is a title. Now if you noticed, repeat what you just read Doc—the whole thing.

READER: "And we know that we are of Yahweh..."

DR. KINLEY: Now you got Yahweh. "We know we are of Yahweh." Go on.

READER: "...and the whole world lieth in wickedness..."

DR. KINLEY: "And we know that the whole world lieth in wickedness". In A.D. 90, when John's writing this epistle. All right.

READER: "...and we know that the Son of Yahweh is come..."

DR. KINLEY: "And we know that the Son of Yahweh" not gonna come, but "is come". Is that right? "Is come". All right.

READER: "...and hath given us an understanding..."

DR. KINLEY: "And hath given us an understanding." Now listen, this is the same one that give Moses and understanding, cause that's what you just said over there in Genesis 1:1. Said, "In the beginning..." Is that right?

DR. EDWARD MIXON: Right, sir.

DR. KINLEY: You see that now? Oh, I tell you this school is something else. Now you talking about a stupendous and gigantic revelation that the devil can't shoulder at all. He can't get near it and don't know what you talking about when you tell him about it. All right. "Has given us an understanding..."

READER: "...that we may know Him that is true..."

DR. KINLEY: "That we may know..." Now look here, what does this... Stand up here Bud. Turn around here and tell them people the 1^st Aim.

MODERATOR (BUD): The first aim is: "To help you find and know Yahweh our Elohim as He really is and actually exists."

DR. KINLEY: Now that's all we're concerned about down here. Thank you, Bud. We ain't concerned about nothing else. We don't care a thing about what the Pope says. We don't care a thing about what your Pastor says. And I'd have you to know this; we ain't even interested in what Isaiah said or Moses. How 'bout that? All we're concerned about is what Yahweh said. We're not concerned about what Jeremiah said, and Jeremiah said it this way—he said, "Thus saith Yahweh." He didn't say, "I said it." You see what I mean? Now that's all we wanna know anything about down in this school.

Now all of this heathen stuff that you've got out here in the world... I remember when they used to ask us said, "How many folks do you have in your church?" I said, "Well I don't really know by head count." And even if I did and told you by head count how many we have in the audience, I don't think all them [Doc chuckles], I don't think all of them is gonna go. You'll find some among them that ain't just right, so then Yahweh wouldn't count them at all.

Okay now listen folks, I said that because this is the place for sinners, this is the place where you unload. Yes, and cast all your burdens upon Him for He cares for you. All this deception and junk that they've been teaching you out there in the world, you just cast it all upon Him because He know. Now I didn't say that David know. I didn't say that Luther knew. I said Yahweh. Okay, read on Doc.

READER: "...and we are in Him that is true..."

DR. KINLEY: "And we are in Him that is true." See, we are in Him that is true. All right, what else?

READER: "...even in His Son, Yahshua the Messiah."

DR. KINLEY: "Even in His Son, Jesus Christ."

STUDENTS: No!

DR. KINLEY: Yahshua the Messiah. Now look, wouldn't it make sense to you, now just be honest with yourself. Now if you feel like you don't wanna come to this, you're gonna have to anyhow. So you just might as well jump up to it tonight as any other night. Now if I could find out what your father's name is (male or female), now it would be stupid for me to ask you what your name is (I mean your first name).

Somebody say, "Well, my first name is Charles. My last name is Johnson." No, you got it backwards. Your first name is Johnson and your last name is Charles. How 'bout that? [Doc laughs.] Oh my, my, my. That's your son. Now if I can find out what your father's name is, you see, I already know what your name is. Now why is it that it wouldn't be that way in His case? Now if the Lord has His name, then why would it...well, why wouldn't He have some parts of it down here? You follow? Okay, and then what else?

READER: "...this is the true Elohim..."

DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute folks, now do you want the True One or do you want a False Deity? Now that's the True One and all the read of 'em is false, and He's the only one.

Now look, John is writing this epistle and where does he get this word here, this title? We said it was between the... Where'd he get that "Elohim"? It's been some questions about it. We told you it was a title. It is not a name. God is a title and not a name. And Lord is a title and not a name, but Yahweh is a name. If that be true, then His Son would have to bear some parts of His name just like you bear some part of your father's name. Do you wanna argue about that?

STUDENTS: No.

DR. KINLEY: We have had 'em to say this when we first begin to bring these things out to you, "Well, what difference does a name make?" Well, we'll give you an answer for that too. This is what the difference a name makes. Okay, look there in Acts 10...

STUDENTS: Acts 4:10.

DR. KINLEY: Acts 4:10. Now this is what the difference, this is what the... See the name makes all the difference in the world. Say listen, it would make some difference with you what people call you! Don't it? I wanna know if that's right or not?

STUDENTS: Yes, right.

DR. KINLEY: All right, read on.

READER: Acts 4:10.

DR. KINLEY: Acts 4:10.

READER: "Be it known unto you all..."

DR. KINLEY: Now wait a minute! "Be this known unto you all..." talking about all of Israel, all the Jews, all the Hebrews; now be this known unto you, all right.

READER: "...and to all the people of Israel..."

DR. KINLEY: Now you see there, "unto all of the people of Israel". All right, read on.

READER: "...that by the name of Yahshua the Messiah..."

DR. KINLEY: "...that by the name of Yahshua the Messiah..."

READER: "...of Nazareth..."

DR. KINLEY: "...of Nazareth..."

READER: "...whom you crucified..."

DR. KINLEY: "...whom you crucified..."

READER: "...whom Yahweh raised from the dead..."

DR. KINLEY: "...whom Yahweh raised from the dead.."

READER: "...even by Him does this man stand here before you whole."

DR. KINLEY: "...does this man stand here, even by Him Yahshua the Messiah, does this man stand here whole." Now this man laid out there at the gate Beautiful asking alms of the people, asking alms of those that went into the temple. And the Apostles walked up to him and they said, "Look on us." And the man looked at 'em. They said, "Now silver and gold, now we don't have no contribution to make, cause silver and gold have we none" (that was kinda my case), "but such as we have give unto thee" (that's my case too), "but in the name of Yahshua the Messiah rise up and walk". In the name of Yahshua the Messiah. And that man got up, they took him by the hand and that man got up from there and ran in that temple, and all them people in that temple that had been passing by and seeing this man...

And then them old Pharisees and Scribes said, "We know that that was a notable miracle that was performed by Peter and John" (so they thought), and they said, "Now and we cant deny it." Folks, he had 'em where the hair was short! [Doc laughs.] Now look here, I'll show you why I brought that up! Now right in this school, and as Dr. Harris told you the other night, I heard him say something about it, he told you about things that they were getting together; him and Dr. Gross, some kind of a history of this school.

Now there are things in that that they're putting together, you'll soon see it. And Dr. Mitchell has gotten a copy of it and he sent it back to me for (and he sent you a copy of it and Dr. Gross a copy) for verification. Now there are miracles just as great as this that has happened in this school. And while I'm on this subject, I'd like to ask if you remember (course now I can't say that to everybody; the kids, cause they were not here when it was talked about and stated). I told you that if you would be obedient and obey that which Yahweh reveals to you through this teaching, if you would be obedient, He would work miracles among you, all kinds of miracles. Did I tell you that? Do you remember?

STUDENTS: Yes! Yes, sir.

DR. KINLEY: All of you remember, put your hand up! [Quite a few hands went up.] All right. I just wanna let you know there hasn't been any disappointment. Now this little condensed story that they have here, that does not cover the whole entire of anything. And right while I'm on that now, Peter and John didn't heal that man, and said so. They said it was by Yahshua the Messiah this man stands here... I haven't healed nobody, but it's Yahshua the Messiah! Now that oughta let you know that He definitely is present! That's one of the things I try my best to drill home to this people, to let you know that Yahweh definitely is present, ever present, never absent at no time. That's one of the...

While I'm on that I think I should bring this up, which I think; in fact the matter, I know it was, it was overlooked and not appreciated as it should have been by them that gathered together. And they said, "Well, we'll just skip the MC" (talking about the history of the school), "we'll just skip prayer and get on into the teaching." Well look fellow, you just skipped a part of the whole entire thing! But you see they didn't realize that they were skipping it, cause the Apostle said that prayers and intercession be made for all them that are in authority, all persons in authority. And then the Holy Spirit maketh intercession for them, makes them daily.

And now that's what the altar of incense was here for, to burn that incense to take the place... and listen that was a daily administration, an everyday thing. And when Peter and John was going in the temple, that was a daily administration! Well now, they thought it was kind of a repetition, a vain repetition, to have a prayer and a song and what not or to follow after procedure! "Well, we'll just skip that and get on into the reality of the thing." No, you just skipped a lot of it that you ought not to have skipped! But they didn't realize that that was what they were doing.

Now since they got back to it and realize that Yahweh is there and it is necessary, prayers and intercession for all men is necessary in every meeting! In fact, the Apostle Paul put it this way... Well, we'll tell you about this first. See the high priest went in thre three times a day at the hour of prayer: nine, twelve and three in the afternoon. And Paul looked the situation over said, "Well, it ain't no need of me just telling 'em nine, twelve and three. Let's just pray without ceasing, just don't stop."

And then James picks it up this way: "Pray one for another that you might be healed." And when you cut out prayer it means that you're just stupid to the ever presense of Yahweh; you haven't got no faith at all. Now that's what it means when you skip it. You don't realize that it's Yahweh's presence at all times. Now that's the reason why the folks didn't realize that this Elohim that created heaven and earth, John [and] them were acquainted with Him incarnated in a physical body, just like He was back there with Moses walking around. You see what I'm talking about?

Now let's get after that: Now said, "This is the true Elohim and eternal life." Is that what you just read? Is that something like it?

READER: Um, hum.

DR. KINLEY: Now John 17:3 says, "This is life eternal." Now that is it, if you're hunting for eternal life. See, it's not in the Pope. It's not in your Pastor. It's just not there, but it is in Yahshua the Messiah and that's where we're supposed to be—in Yahshua the Messiah.

Well, I said I didn't wanna stay up here long, but I would like to just bring this out and we... Dr. Rosen and I, we were talking about this afternoon. I'll make a door here. We don't usually do this right, so we're gonna try to do this some way near right this time. Now let me do it wrong like some have did. I just wanna show you we know the difference. See now, this is the way we did up there and we just kinda put a little gap in here. Now that's wrong. See how it is here. You see we know the difference. You see how it is around here on the outside?

Now I wanna show you what's got me bringing this up: Now Dr. Allen really talked about the cloud this morning, didn't he? And talked about the attributes in the cloud. Now this is one of the things I try my best to get you to see and to understand is that this cloud it symbolizes Yahweh. Now a cloud (now you pay attention, pay attention), now a cloud it has, just like your brain, it has convolutions. You know what a convolution is? You mind telling us Doc? Maybe some of you don't know.

DR. ROBERT HARRIS, M.D.: Yes, sir. They are raised portions, wave-like, in the brain.

DR. KINLEY: Like mountains and valleys in the brain. Now do you know why I brought that up? A whole lot of you have been brain washed. You've had that satanic doctrine preached unto you for so long you've got grooves cut in your brains. [Student body laughs.] And you think you're smart and you're just as stupid as you could be, convolutions, corrupt hallucinations. Now that's right! Now I didn't say that just to be funny either!

See some of 'em say, "Repeat this after me: "Hira-Krishna, Hira-Krishna" Say, "Well I don't see no sense in this." And they say go on and repeat it anyhow whether you do or not! And after while, then here you are you come up here with "Hira-Krishna, Hira-Krishna, Hira-Krishna, Hira-Krishna". And then you believe that Krishna's in you. Well, it cuts one of them grooves or convolutions in your brain or in your cloud, and you got an erroneous deity sitting up in there, cause Yahweh Elohim said, "I will dwell between the wings of the cherubims in the cloud above the Mercy Seat"; which is typical, this cloud is typical of your brain with them convolutions in it.

And then we commence to try to tell you something about the names. "Where y'all get all them old funny names at?" Say, "Well I'm going on in the name of Jesus." Yeah, you going on in his name, but where? You see what I mean? All right now look, you see this is wrong. Now I just brought that out in order to skip a whole lot.

Now different ones that's come down here and they try to find something wrong with these charts, looking around saying, "Well this ain't right, that ain't right." Look fellow I can find more wrong with these charts than you can. Now if you can't understand the charts (stand up Mickey), here's a map–you can look at him. And none of these pictures up here on this chart has any life in 'em. They're not supposed to be the real thing. They're just illustrations, limited too. Okay, now you see that?

Now we are in His Son. Now we want to get the cloud here, we want to go into everything real quick. [Dr. Kinley writes numbers on the board.] That's the cloud; that's the zero.

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